18. Tried and tested time management & productivity hacks

In this episode of Wildly Intentional, Flick and Verity dive into the world of productivity, time management and the realistic ways they’ve learned to make business work for them over the years.

With Flick recording from a different location and Verity feeling a little more distracted than usual, it felt like the perfect opportunity to talk honestly about focus, routines, energy levels and the systems that genuinely help when life and business feel busy.

From productivity methods they swear by to habits they’ve completely abandoned, this conversation explores the different ways business owners can manage their time without falling into the trap of trying to do everything perfectly.

As always, there’s a mix of practical insight, relatable moments and honest reflections on what actually works in real life — especially when your brain doesn’t always want to cooperate.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome to Wildly Intentional, the podcast of business owners who refuse to play small.

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This is where we'll have bold talks, honest conversations and dig into what it really takes to create big breakthroughs in business and in life.

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We're Verity and Flick, we're two business owners who have built, broken, rebuilt and grown businesses in our own ways.

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And we're here to share the lessons, the mindset shifts, and the unapologetic decisions that have really helped us to level up.

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So if you're ambitious, you're growth focused, and you're ready to do business on your own terms, you're in exactly the right place. So let's get wildly intentional.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Hello and welcome to Wildly Intentional.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

Hello, welcome back. I think we did that because we normally do. There was nothing interesting about that introduction. Hi!

SPEAKER_01 0:51

I wasn't sure if that caught you off guard then.

SPEAKER_00 0:53

It did. I was like checking my team's messages while you you know pressed record, which I by the way told you to press record, so I knew it was coming, but you know, somewhere in between my brain went, No, I'm okay, I can go and check my team's messages and my emails, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

I I thought you were just making sure the fact that I was the first one that said hello, because normally it's you.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

No, I just momentarily switched off for a second.

SPEAKER_01 1:15

You're back in the room now.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

Back in the room. You, however, are not in the room. No, I'm I'm not. On location today. I'm out in the wild. It's raining and everything, you're outside with your laptop.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

No, it's not. It's it's it's sunny, but I've got the umbrella up to keep the sun off my laptop.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

And somewhere nearby, there are loads of squirrels.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

I've sent Flick a photo of this, so she can put this on social media. So if you want a visual of what Flick looks like right now, with her background that is being kind of taken away from the sp by the sun with this kind of half umbrella in it. It's it's this is how we record our podcast in the wild.

SPEAKER_01 1:53

I've I've sent the opposite one back to you of like this is what I can see. I can barely see the laptop screen.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Well, it's a good job, you don't need to see me.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

But my umbrella's got loads of dragonflies on it, of course, because it's me. I just realise how much I am flickering in and out of focus with my my virtual screen. Should I take it off so you can see the back?

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:13

I mean our listeners can't see it, but you know. Oh, the wind's picking up as well. That's gonna make it fun with holding on to the umbrella.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

Oh, it's pretty butterfly. I'll take a photo of that while we do it so we can see you on location during the podcast. Hold the line callers. I will send that to you. So, like, we need to hurry this up because you know, ironically, we're talking about time today, um, but neither of us have any, so we need to like get through this.

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Yeah, I mean time blindness is the thing we know with like it's such a well talked about thing with ADHD. But you know, as a business owner, like time management is such a a thing that we need to be aware of, that we we we need to be focusing on, and and I'm rubbish at it, listeners. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

I was gonna say, are we actually gonna sit and advocate for time management? Because we both know that we have never got this nailed ever.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Oh, I try so hard. So my day today has like literally gone out the window. Um, which is why I'm outside because my day has gone out the window.

SPEAKER_00 3:18

This is what happens when your internet runs out, folks.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Yeah, there's been a massive fire somewhere in the servers of my internet at home. So it's meant I've had no internet all day. I've I've like depleted my mobile hubspot uh hotspot thing as much as I possibly physically could. I've done everything that I can offline and I had to give up. And I've come down to my local scout hut, which does have Wi-Fi, which, as I'm a scout leader with them, I have access to Wi-Fi. And yeah, but now that the squirrels are going to be in the scout hut and they're gonna be doing activities, I was like, I'll come outside where the Wi-Fi still reaches to be able to record this podcast for you. Like that is my dedication, right? Time was against me.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

It is. Can I just point out though, for the listeners who don't understand what you just said, we were not putting squirrels in there just for the annual reference. I'm guessing squirrels is actually the name of your group or a group that's yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

So there's now squirrels, which are age she's uh four to six year olds, they're the tiny little tots. Um you have beavers, which are six to eight-year-olds, which um coincidentally my husband is a beaver scout leader. Um, then you have cubs, um, so they are eight to ten-year-olds, and then I'm a scout leader. We do scouts, which is ten to sort of thirteen, and then you've got explorers and then network and leaders and all that kind of stuff. So, yeah, squirrels is the the latest group to join the scouting family.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

And it's an animal reference, so it is, but what's ironic is you're the first group not to have an animal reference. Yeah, yeah, the originals, the OGs. Yeah. All right, let's talk about time because I'm running out of it tonight. I got a stressed husband at home who was like, Can you come back please? So I can like do some work.

unknown 5:03

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

But yeah, it's it's so important. And I think as business owners, like when I first started, and even when I worked for you, I think Verity, like I was so conscious of okay, I've got to be at my desk from like nine to five, like I've got to be in work mode, and I can only take like half an hour for lunch. And you know, if I if I take an appointment out during the day, I've got to make up that time at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

I remember you first telling me, can I go and get my nails done this afternoon? I was like, Why are you even asking? Why are you even asking if you can go get your nails done? Just go and get your nails done.

SPEAKER_01 5:39

Yeah, and it is it is, but it's just that I come from that mentality of the fact that you had to be desk like eight till four, nine till five, ten till six, whatever you know, shift pattern you work in. Like that was when I had to be in work and it had to be you know solidly working, which we know it doesn't work for for my kind of brain and and your kind of brain. So um, so trying to break that mold and you know, sort of go, actually, no, I can take half a day today because it's you know my husband's birthday and we want to go out for lunch or we want to go out somewhere, or I don't know, that was just one one example. It takes a while to break out of that cycle, I think. Um the wind is picking up and the sun is coming out, so I'm like holding onto my umbrella like Mary Poppins.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

So if I go flying, just got this vision of you just going like, what is it? Up in the highest ground. Something like that. Um I'm gonna bring a different perspective to this tonight, which is a bit, you know, controversial. You're not gonna like it. Um, obviously, there are tools you can have for time management. I haven't tested them out yet. The time blindness is is well, do you know what? The time blindness is not real for me at all. I am the complete opposite. I my husband has absolute time blindness. He doesn't get the time at all, and he certainly doesn't understand the impact it has on other people if he's not on time for somewhere. He just thinks that everybody will suit his agenda and his time scale. Whereas I'm the opposite because I had a very strict dad, I've got to be places on time, um, I've got to get things done on time because I'm scared of the consequences if I don't. Um time blindness doesn't really apply to me, but it is a real thing, especially with neurodivergent brains. But I also come with a different, and I'm really bad at this, so this is really hypocritical, and I'm just gonna say it. A lot of the reason I'm going back to my coaching days as small business owners, and I used to laugh when time management came up because I'm gonna be real with everybody here. Half the problem with time management is how you're spending your time in the first place, and actually, you're probably spending, I think I did a post on it once, out of an eight-hour day, you're probably spending two and a half of them working. The rest of the time you're faffing, or you're finding, you're working on the projects that seem really like fluffy and lovely and the new shiny things, but you're not actually getting your work done, or you're having conversations or chats or going out for coffee or you're doing whatever, but you're not actually you're busy being busy, you're not busy being productive. And I think when I said it the last time when I kind of wrote this article on it, it was like if you actually wrote down minute by minute how you spend your day, you will come out at the end of the day thinking, I didn't do any work today. Yeah. And there's always a reason for that.

SPEAKER_01 8:27

Yeah, yeah. Oh no, I'm I'm I'm as guilty as anyone for that. Um, and I proved that because I used to, I mean, I still try and use the app Clockify, um, which is a free app that that just tracks, you know, time tracks. I mean, it's great for, you know, if you're doing um like I know an awful lot of VAs use it for the fact that they can track the time that they're working for um their clients and things like that when they're when they're billing hourly. Yeah, I used to use Clockify. Um, and I used to use that, and it's like half the time I forget to switch it. Forget the fact that I got it running on one particular task.

SPEAKER_00 9:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

Um, and then I'd I'd like go back and go like, oh well, I didn't work on that client's work for for three hours. I only did about half an hour. Oh, I didn't switch tasks. I didn't and it was remembering to go back and and change the tasks and things like that. But I I I mean I'm a big advocate now for um like co-working spaces where we use the pomodoro technique because it's I get the sociable five minutes and then I get 25 minutes of absolute like this is what I'm gonna do, this is what I'm gonna smash out at 25 minutes, and nine times out of ten, I can actually do an awful lot more work in 25 minutes than I you will I I hold myself able to. So when you then go back to the check-in at like for that five-minute window and go, well, what did you get done? I'm like, I've got this and that and this, that, and the other done. And I'm like, wow.

SPEAKER_00 9:52

And for those who don't know, we're talking about sprints ultimately, sprints of works a pomodora sprints, where um you literally just time yourself, you give yourself like 20 minutes and you've got to get certain activities done in that sprint. And actually, that is the only thing that's ever worked for me, I think. Because it's like, and that is an ADHD thing because it's the pressure, isn't it? It's a deadline, the deadline to get it done. So let's get line mode. Yeah, hyper focus, let's do it. And and then you have the break at the end of it.

SPEAKER_01 10:21

Well, see, I find that it only works for me when I'm in that like co-working space, when I've got somebody else there. If I'm by myself and I'm like, right, I'm gonna use Clockify and because Clockify's got a setting within it that um you can activate the Pomodoro sprint technique, and I'm like, does not work for me on my own. I have to be with other people, which is really frustrating as a soul trader to be like, I have to be with other people.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Yeah, it is, but actually, it's a really good tip as a soul trader, you know, surround yourself with people, go and find co-working spaces, join like online co-working. We used to do online co-working in the tower tribe because of that. Um, I mean, I I I did used to do it on my own, but the only problem was I would go hell for leather for that 20 minutes, and then I was just exhausted. So I was like, now I'm tired now. I've done it, I've done 20 minutes work, I'm going for rest. Yeah, going for a nap, now a nap in the middle of the day.

SPEAKER_01 11:11

Need a reward, need a need to, you know, go for a coffee. I actually do find that when I'm doing the the co-working spaces, I drink far less coffee because I'm like, well, I can't go in the five minutes because that's the five minutes that I'm catching up with people and I'm I'm socially engaging. And I can't go for a coffee in the 25 minutes because I'm I'm meant to be working. Yeah. I drink far less coffee when I'm on that. And I'm like, I get to the end of the day, I'm like, why am I so exhausted? I'm like, I'm exhausted because I've done a lot of work, but also I'm exhausted because I haven't had the caffeine intake that I normally have.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

Yeah, absolutely. What other tools have you used?

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Um, I mean, I've tried to do like I mean it's similar to the like the the things that we've already said, but like the the time blocking with like um I got somebody who um told me about using Lego bricks, different coloured Lego bricks, the and different size Lego bricks for actually the l amount of time that you can do. Yeah. I ended up just playing with Legos, I'll be honest. Just like yeah, that doesn't that that one didn't work for me of like having that visual thing. Um, and so I suppose in terms of task management rather than time management, I I'm a big fan of like a to-do list. Um like I set one out, I've I've got a weekly to-do list, but I've also got a daily to-do list of like this is what I want to get done today. And I have an accountability partner as well, and we check in with each other regularly of like how are you getting on today? If we haven't heard from each other in the morning, like we send a little nudge going, Are you okay? Do you need to jump on a call? What's you know, where's your motivation and things like that?

SPEAKER_00 12:49

So yeah. Um I I'm just like in my head, I'm laughing because I'm not used to give all these like tools and techniques out to people. So you used to do this, you do that. I never did it myself. But there's there's lots of different things. I mean, there's you know, the one thing the the Pomodoro sprints did work for me, but I would get exhausted. I could only do them a couple of times a day. The to-do lists for me were um okay, but then I'd always find something to add to it. And if I'd done something that wasn't on my to-do list, I had to add it to my to-do list just so I could take it off because I needed that like you know, little like quarters and quarters all kind of jump at the end. Um dopamine. Dopamine, stress, dopamine's the happy. It's been a long day. Um, but actually, the one that I do think is I don't know whether it works for time management, but it's a really good organization to do to keep you on track, particularly if you've got a brain that kind of goes off track so much. Is the one three five rule. Have you ever used that one? Oh no, that do tell it's really good. So when you you're talking about your to-do list, so if you're your daily to-do list, I can't even speak to stuttering. Um you have like one big task, that's one. So you've got one big task you have to achieve today. You've got three medium tasks, and then you've got five small tasks. So the reward is the five small tasks because you know you're going to get through them. But to get to the five small tasks, these could be your like pretty shiny things that you like to do. You've got to get through your first big task and your three medium tasks first. So it's three, five, and and sorry, one, three, and five. Um but I used to like that because it gave me structure and I like structure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was, I had to do that one, which the one task I always put the big task was always the eat eat the frog. Eat the frog for breakfast task, um, which if you don't know is basically, you know, just get rid of the crap first. The stuff that you hate doing, that actually is another tip in itself, eat the frog for breakfast. That one used to work for me. I used to force myself to do the task I did not want to do the most, get that done first, because it just gives you this massive lift. Once you've done that, it gives you a high and you're like you're ready for the next thing. So my one big task was always my eat the frog for breakfast task, and then I'd go on to three kind of okay tasks that I quite like, but I don't love, but I'd get them done, and then I could go on to all the good stuff, so all the five tasks that I really enjoyed doing, which were the smaller tasks. And by the end of the day, I had like nine tasks that I ticked off my to-do list, but I used to segment them into urgent, medium, and like red, green, and amber. So I'd like to have that today.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

Well, you've been talking like my brain's been going, like, yeah, but what constitutes a big task? Is it the urgent task? Is it the oh my god, this is gonna take me hours task? And that's that's where my brain's going, I'm I'm already stuck. I'm like, I don't know how to organize my my tasks into like big, medium, and small. And like this, these don't have any kind of equation for me of like actually how do I um and I think the sorry that was gonna just be.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

That's why I used to do it with the the front shut up a minute. That's why I used to do it eat the for breakfast. So my big task wouldn't always be the massive, the biggest task I had, it would be the one that I least wanted to do. Then the three tasks were the ones that I didn't hate but didn't love either. So it was kind of a tour to get through them. But then what it did mean is I had to wait until later in the day to get to the nice task. So it meant that I was still working later in the day and I was actually being productive. So I wasn't kind of telling myself, well, I can have a late lunch hour, I can finish early today because you know I've done that big task. I had to finish my five little tasks that I love doing, otherwise, they get added to the list tomorrow, and then it's just longer and longer, and it's just it doesn't work. So it keeps you on track, it gives you structure. But the big task can be whatever you like, it can be whatever, it can be your smallest physical task, but the one you don't want to do the most.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Yeah, and I think that's the thing is that I I sometimes struggle with organizing my day that way as well. So, particularly for me being in such a creative industry and and you know, creating content for for other people, creating courses, you know, all of that kind of stuff. A lot of it comes from creativity. And there are days where I sit down and I'm like, the creativity is just not there today. I need to go and do like the admin, like sort of rigid tasks that don't need a lot of that creativity. So again, like you know, that that one big task might be okay, I need to sit and do my email newsletters. And I sit and I stare at that email and go, okay, so I've got my subject line, I've got what I want to talk about, I've got what I want to promote. But actually the words come in. No, no, words aren't coming. So I'll like close down that task. I'm like, that goes like bumped down the list of like later on because I can't force that creativity, that the word, the language at that point. So I I also have to like work on what kind of like what kind of mode is my brain in today, isn't it? So we've gone from time to to time to tasks, but yeah, it it's really difficult, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Because I don't think either of us have really got its test. We've never we've tried got we tried and tested so many different ways of doing it, but it's really hard. I mean, I struggle with high management now, but I haven't got a choice because I've got structure in my day, so it's like I know that I need to be working on certain things and there's deadlines to it. So my life is a constant deadline, so it kind of works with my ADHD where I know, but I do find that sometimes I get three weeks' notice on something, and then obviously 48 hours before I'm panicking, and that's when my hyperfocus kicks in. But because you run your own business, it's more difficult to put that structure in. You can't you have to be really strict with yourself, and there's a tip in itself, you know, start, and I always used to say this as a coach is run your business as if it's a big corporate company, do what corporate organizations would do, um, run it like you know they would run their organization because then you start thinking bigger as well. So part of coming out of that small business mentality is actually the mentality side of it. It's you start working like a big business, and you know, corporate leaders absolutely would not kind of worry about time management, they wouldn't be using Pomodora spritz splits, spray, spritz.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

Um yeah, absolutely. I agree with you in the fact that you know the the treating your business, and that's what you know it's like trying to like understand my my brain as like which hat have I put on today, which you know, which hat is my brain giving me today. Um, okay, so I've I've got I've got like a really structured and rigid, okay. I'm gonna work on like my forecasting or my finances and my like you know my cash flow and those kind of things that are like really rigid and and not allowing much creativity, whereas other days where I'm like, okay, the numbers are not making sense to me. Okay, I'm gonna create some pretty pictures and and have an art class and and switch it up. Um and then I suppose the other thing is, you know, I I think we've spoken about it before of you know, building a business that doesn't need you in it, so that actually you can take those afternoons off. So you know, next week I'm at a three-day um speaker training course um in Peterborough, and it's like, okay, so my brain's gone right, I need to block out. Um, so I have um a link that I send people like when I want to book one-to-ones or they want to book meetings with me, whether that's clients, potential clients, you know, onboarding clients, things like that. Um so I really have to be quite structured with my diary. My diary freaks a lot of people out because I have so much in there. But I have a lunch break every day in my diary. Um, I don't necessarily take it at that time, but it means the fact that on days where I've got heavy back-to-back meetings, they cannot physically book me for that one particular hour, so that I do get at least a little bit of a break, even if I am still doing a bit of paperwork um in in preparation for a meeting or at just after a meeting, things like that. Um so I then start to I've got days where I just literally block it out so nobody can book any meetings with me, and I just call it um content creation days. Um just so that I have those, and I've got those booked next week because I've got a three-day week, three days away from the desk. I've got you know the Monday and Tuesday block booked so that people can't book meetings with me, so that I can actually do you know the day-to-day business stuff to afford me the time to go away for three days. Um, and that's really important as well, is actually understanding what you can get done in a day, yeah. Um, or in a week, or uh you know a month, or what whatever you know, sort of time blockade you set yourself, understanding your limits of what you can get done, and not having a day like me today where my internet goes down and it completely wipes out my entire tangent.

SPEAKER_00 21:42

Yeah, absolutely. And there are always going to be days like that where you do, but you also uh particularly again if you're neurodivergent, you you kind of go off on tangents, don't you? And you say yes to things really easily. You say yes to meetings, and you say I can fit it all in, or you've got a task list that's really exciting, and you're like, I'm gonna go half a leather and I'm gonna. Get it done, and it's like, no, you got one done. But I think I mean, I just I haven't got this nailed, and I cannot say that I have got it nailed because I never did. I always I tried and tested everything, I've colour coded everything, I've done time blocks, I've done the Pomodoro sprints. That was probably the most effective, but I couldn't do them repeatedly. Um, the one, three, five tasks was always good for me, but saying no is a good one as well. Saying no to people so you don't get distracted, that's always a good one.

SPEAKER_01 22:27

Um and then when your business is at capacity and like you need to grow as well. But yeah, I'm sure we talked about that like one in one of the early episodes. Um, you know, actually when you are at your limit and if you are working hell for leather and maxed out every single week, yeah, um, you know, are you are you actually being productive?

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Yeah. And I think that that's where I was going. I think the most powerful one to me is to do that like um time test, if you like, where you literally use Clockify if you want to, if that's if you like systems, or use a diary if you don't, um, and just test yourself, just a normal day, literally write down every minute what you're doing, or kind of chunks of time that you're doing throughout the day, and then go and look at it at the end of the day and see how productive you were. And what you'll find from that is it may be that you were productive for an hour and a half all day, which is quite reasonable. You you probably will find that. Um, so then you think to yourself, well, actually, if I was productive for three hours, so just doubling that time, just three hours a day, I could have the rest of the day off because I'm already doubling what I've done.

SPEAKER_01 23:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

And you can see how much you can step away from your business at that point because you're not actually in it in the first place.

SPEAKER_01 23:43

But also, as well, don't beat yourself up by when you have done that experiment of actually how much productive work have you been doing. So I had a real issue with this recently, and and you know, I know that there are some of the listeners um that are part of the same um business coaching group that I'm in. And a few months ago, I I was in tears, like with them going like, I'm just not being productive. I'm just I just get stuck in a doom scroll and I'm not motivated. And somebody said, Okay, but if you work for somebody else, how much more work would you have done? If you didn't work for yourself and you worked for somebody else, you know, how much time did you actually spend sat at your desk typing away furiously? You weren't answering calls or you know mess, you know, sending emails like how much work was actual work and not just the the little bits around the outside bit. And I was like, Oh, well, actually, yeah, when I used to work in the office, a good portion of my Monday was catching up with everybody as to what we'd done at the weekend. Mondays were my least productive day because we had such a good relationship, we had such a good friendship in the office, yeah, that we we spent that time catching up, and it was like I never beat myself up for that, but yet when I work I work for myself, if I have a day, you know, where I'm sort of I don't know, doom scrolling or or whatever, it's like well, I don't need to beat myself up for that.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

To be smug or anything, but you know, if you come off social media, doom scrolling goes with it. I'm very much more productive since I no longer have Facebook or TikTok. Tiki tock.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

I see I have deleted them all off my home page now because I noticed that it's the fact that as soon as I unlock my phone, they're all in my face. And if they've got notifications, I hate the little red numbers in the corner of them.

SPEAKER_00 25:26

Oh, I do as well.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

So I have to go in and I have to clear all my notifications so that like I don't have that.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Then you get the one that doesn't disappear and you can't figure out how to do it, and it really irritates you because it stays in your phone. It's like, no.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

Or I'd get really angry with my husband because he'd be on a break at work and I'd like click be clearing all the videos. I'm like, I've got to watch all these videos so that I can get rid of the notifications. And he'd be sending more. And I'm like, stop it. I want to be productive, I want to get off videos, but I need to get rid of the notification. He's like, So just close it. And I was like, so now I've deleted them all off my home screen on my phone so that actually I can't see the red numbers. I have to go into my apps and in to see the red numbers.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

Um I think as well, it it is like it is trying and testing things. It's like one thing will work for one another. What was it? One size fits one, not one fight size fits all. And it is, I mean, we've tried them all. Some things work really well. Like the Pomodoro Sprints works really well for me for a while, and then it just doesn't work anymore. So I have to switch to something else. And I did that's pretty much every aspect of my life. Things don't work for very long, so I have to switch it up, um, keep it interested and all that, but you know, just try things. But I think it's quite apparent that we haven't got it nailed, and you know, so if anybody actually has any real tips that they want to share with us, that would be amazing. So just pop into our Facebook page, which apparently we're not seeing. Did you get that message, yeah?

SPEAKER_01 26:50

Yeah, I saw that message today, but I was so yeah, I was so stressed with the fact that I had no internet.

SPEAKER_00 26:58

Yeah, so Nicola, if you're listening, I'm really hoped that we've answered your message by now. Um, because this is going to be several weeks ago. Um, we did get your message, but I'm not on social media. So it is all on Flick, I'm afraid. But she will she will get back to you. She will reply. But thank you for listening and being a loyal listener.

unknown 27:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

So I don't know whether I'll have to have a look. Yeah, I will have a look. I will get back to you, Nicola.

SPEAKER_00 27:21

Hopefully you have by now. Nicola, if you haven't heard from Flick, you can put an official complaint into me.

SPEAKER_01 27:28

Well, when she when she sent the message, I was actually in the gym and I just got off the um uh the squat rack and my legs were like jelly, and I saw the message come through, and I was like, I'll deal with that later. And then I have not having internet today is just completely throwing my brain for everything.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

I was mid-class, so I was like kind of it shouldn't have been coming up on my phone in the first place. That was a bit I'd forgotten to put do not disturb on. Um but yeah, so Nikki, we haven't ignored you. Um hopefully we got back to you by now. But thank you for listening. You are such you are a very loyal listener. You do listen in every week, and we appreciate it. I'm kind of bored with the time management talk now. I'm honest. Yeah, it's not it's just not productive, is it?

SPEAKER_01 28:11

It's not it's not your area of expertise. We can't share the tip that's really worked for us. See, I find with the the Pomodoro sprints is the fact that I can only do them one day a week and I spend the whole day doing Pomodoro sprints, and then that's it. I'm like, right, the rest of the week, I'm like, no, I'm gonna work at my pace, which is why I quite like um my co-working space is on a Monday. So I literally smash it, smash out loads of because I catch up with like my business contacts that are in the co-working space, but I also smash out an awful lot of work, and then I'm like, right, okay, I've started my week on an absolute high because I've got through so many of my my weekly tasks that I need to do.

SPEAKER_00 28:51

Yeah, good feeling.

SPEAKER_01 28:54

You really, you really vary tea has checked out of this right now.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

Yeah, I'm so bored of this conversation now. I really feel like we've wasted like half an hour talking about time management. That's just not productive. But you know, hopefully you're laughing along with us and you can share some tips with us if you've got it nailed, if you've got it sused, tell us how you've done it. How do you manage your time well? Let us know.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

We don't know how long we've we've been talking about this. I don't know, about half an hour, I think. Probably about around about half an hour. Do you want I feel like we need to say, do you want to leave it there? Otherwise, you're just gonna be like you're just it's like blood from a stone now. I'm like, come on, come on, come on.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

I've checked out and done. I've like I've been in class all day. I am just yeah, I'm done. I'm done. You're not getting anything productive out of me now.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Just uh um that is exactly how I was last night. So last night, um, I'm just gonna tell the story to the listeners because it was just it really made me laugh and go, tell me your ADHD without telling me your ADHD. Um so last weekend I'd literally said to my husband, I was like, Oh, I really fancy do like baking some bread from scratch or like baking some cupcakes or cookies or something like that. Just really fancy baking. I was like, Do you know if we have a bread tin, darling? And he was like, I've no idea if we have a bread tin. I haven't opened the baking cupboard in probably years.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

You've got an actual baking cupboard.

SPEAKER_01 30:18

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 30:21

So last night I actually had a night off, which is the thing of uh unheard of, which you know, now knowing what today's been like, I really wish that actually I had just carried on working late because then today would have been far less stressful. But anyway, and I was like, I'm gonna do oh the squirrels have come outside now, this is gonna be fun. Um that's actual people, folks. That's not actual squirrels. That is small children. So I can see them, yeah. So yeah, so I um so I was like, I tidied up the kitchen, I like empty the dishwasher, did a little bit of washing up, the stuff that wouldn't go in the dishwasher. I was like, do you know what? I'm gonna have a look in the baking cupboard. I'm I've got some time tonight. I can bake something. Now have a look in the baking cupboard to see if we've got a bread tin. Which then led to the absolute full on, let's pull everything out, check the dates on everything that was in there, like the food colourings, the flavourings, because I used to do an awful lot of baking cupcakes and icing decorations and all that kind of stuff. And I literally pulled everything out and I sorted out into piles. This was the pile that was going to be thrown away, which was a massive pile because that was like we don't go into the baking cupboard very often. Forgot flour that was like went out of date in 2018, like it's really bad. Um, and then all of the stuff that I could keep, which was mainly like the baking trays, the the cupcake um tray, the you know, all that kind of muffin tin, that's the words I'm looking for. And Rob came home in the middle of this. I'm sat on the kitchen floor pulling things out of the cupboard. Now I have a real aversion to like cobwebs, and there were some things there were cobwebs at the back of the cupboard, and I was like, I need to clean that out. And he just took one look at me, sat legging on the floor in front of all of this mess because the piles weren't neat. Of course they weren't neatly piled up, right? And he just went, sort of you're baking tonight. Just not even a what are you doing, not even a not even batted on eyelid. And then I sorted it all out, threw away all the stuff that needed to be thrown away, cleaned the the trays and stuff that it had got, um, like some of the syrups had leaked and things like that because that they were old and and like cleaned all of that, and then it just went a bit. Done with that. And literally Rob went, Rob just went, okay, so what do you want to do now? I was like, I think I'm gonna do some stitching. Just went off to go and do some stitching.

SPEAKER_00 32:47

That is definitely tell me I'm ADHD without telling me. I regularly do that. It's Paul will come home and just went, you went full ADHD, didn't you? And I'm like, yeah, and he'd like leave the room and resort it.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

Yeah, the dopamine left the room before I did. So yeah, it's just like, but it just it just really made me laugh. It's just yeah, he just Rob just bless him, he didn't even bat an eyelid, he didn't even go, you know. Like if I had been my parents and I'd have done that as a teenager at home, it'd be like, You've made all this mess, and and I was like, it's only stuff on the draining board that needs to go away, right?

SPEAKER_00 33:25

Well done, Rob. I I think I've said it before when I had made EHD assessment, I came off it and looked at Paul and said, You really do have a lot to cope with. I didn't realise how much our husbands go through with us. No, they are chants.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

They are they are wonderful. Right. Are we have we got any wild words of wisdom for today? Or are we are we leaving it up to the uh listeners to to tell us what they're doing?

SPEAKER_00 33:52

That's a good idea. You tell us the wild words of wisdom because we have not got this covered at all. We have got no clue how to manage time. That's my wild words of wisdom. Don't know that.

SPEAKER_01 34:03

Maybe by the time this episode comes out, I will have baked something.

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Oh, that'd be nice. Yeah, bake something, don't make me jealous because I can't eat it.

unknown 34:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:14

Right, folks, we will see you next time.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

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SPEAKER_01 34:31

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